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[19Bones79]

The term New World Order has become part of our lexicon over the last few decades.

No longer a term used by conspiracy-minded nuts like muhself, it's a term espoused by people like Klaus Schwab and his protege Noah Harari and perhaps made famous by George Bush.

The difference between them and me is that when they talk about it, they always make it seem like a good thing. 

I've never met a person in real life who thought it was a good thing.

Are leaders leaders because they give the people what they want or because they tell the people 'what they want'?

Have you met middle management types before?

Salt of the earth right, or is that salted earth I'm not so sure I confuse easily.


So what do these people have in store for us, as they make us paid tenants on a planet they own and we are merely born into a life of bondage?

As it stands global debt is up to 315 trillion dollars as of May 2024, and counting. 

I'm sure the people that are owed this money are doing it purely for the love of humanity. And numbers. 

It's not like they hold some power over what we perceive as the ruling class i.e government and politicians.

Surely they wouldn't leverage their position to cause the world to be the way it is?

Which is why the 'Kalergi Plan' must be a ridiculous conspiracy theory only propped up by modern far-right nutjobs.

As always, we go to the trusted source of information that is Wikipedia :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalergi_Plan

"The conspiracy theory stems from a section of Kalergi's 1925 book Praktischer Idealismus ("Practical Idealism"), in which he predicted that a mixed race of the future would arise: "The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes[a] will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

Clearly some individuals feel the need to take this out of context and attribute intent where there is none. 


And then there are the nutjobs that read too much into videos such as the following :




Clearly, this woman is just a well-meaning albeit deranged hippy that wants us all to get along and sing kumba-ya and if you read more into her words you are anti-proclitic.

So without further ado, let's hold up this 'Kalergi Plan' to the light, compare it to what's happening in our lovely world and dismiss it for the fraudulent document that it is..... 

...unfortunately Wikipedia talks about the Kalergi plan conspiracy without listing the conspiracy claims which is a little odd. 

Luckily I was able to find it for us:

1. The creation of racism offences.

I don't see any fences that are racist.. 

2. Continual change to create confusion. 

Huh? 

3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children. 

Awwww hell no! 

4. The undermining of teacher's and school's authority.

Spare the rod, it's expensive. And spoil the child, go on, spoil them rotten. You know you want to, Gramma! 

5. Huge emigration to destroy identity. 

I'm not emigrating. Are you? If so, how did it destroy your identity? 

Ergo, duh. 

6. The promotion of excessive drinking.

Nonsense. I'm down to one bud light and a tranny per day. 

7. Emptying of churches.

Monday through Saturday, right?

8. An unreliable justice system with bias against victims.

Ruth! You just had to hang on for a couple more days dammit it's all your fault!

9. Dependency on State and state benefits.

I mean who doesn't like free stuff? And stuff.

10. Control and dumbing down of media.

I don't see any of that I only get my news from CNN, the most trusted name in news. 

11. Encouraging the breakdown of family.

Then why is there a song called We Are Family?!?


Checkmate, haters. 

Document: Myth Busted!


Ahhh, time for a Bud-Lite®. 


:drinkingcheers:

[MisterSpock]

On the topic of debt, global debt.

I'm not the smartest man in the room, but I don't understand how so few can apparently(at the top) have so much to keep creating "money" to continue to create and borrow to literally the whole world.

Seems like, while they obviously have some, most of it is just imaginary?

What happens when nobody pays, why can't the US just wash itself of this debt and say "tough shit" to it's lenders.

[19Bones79]

On the topic of debt, global debt.

I'm not the smartest man in the room, but I don't understand how so few can apparently(at the top) have so much to keep creating "money" to continue to create and borrow to literally the whole world.

Seems like, while they obviously have some, most of it is just imaginary?

What happens when nobody pays, why can't the US just wash itself of this debt and say "tough shit" to it's lenders.

Yup. 

And what is the US borrowing? What are the lenders hedging this value against?

I get it they have a printing machine and the thing prints money like paper grows on trees. 

But where is the physical representation of what they printed?

[MisterSpock]

Yup. 

And what is the US borrowing? What are the lenders hedging this value against?

I get it they have a printing machine and the thing prints money like paper grows on trees. 

But where is the physical representation of what they printed?

The only reason to borrow money from people who don't have it and to make people who can't pay it be responsible for it.

Is to pocket some of it in between. I'm tired of it, so damn tired of it.

[19Bones79]

The only reason to borrow money from people who don't have it and to make people who can't pay it be responsible for it.

Is to pocket some of it in between. I'm tired of it, so damn tired of it.

You and me both. 

Why does the institution that creates money out of thin air need to be profitable?

Towards what end?

[MisterSpock]

You and me both. 

Why does the institution that creates money out of thin air need to be profitable?

Towards what end?

At some point, high up enough, you aren't accountable to no one.

Is that it?

Knowing that, I say people downstream should just tell them to fuck off and let the chips fall.

[19Bones79]

At some point, high up enough, you aren't accountable to no one.

Is that it?

Knowing that, I say people downstream should just tell them to fuck off and let the chips fall.

I have it on good authority that there is a God-complex the higher you go.

And thou shalt not mock it apparently.

[FCD]

Another thought on "Global Debt". Every time I hear this my brain goes into 'limp mode' (anyone who owns a diesel truck will know what this reference means). What is "global debt" anyway? (rhetorical question).

Let's say the planet only has 10 people on it. If one person borrows $1 dollar from another person, then the 'global debt' is $1 dollar, right? And if another person borrows $1 dollar, then the global debt is $2 dollars, and so on, and so on.

Now let's say all (10) people each borrowed a dollar from someone else; what's the global debt then? Simple math would suggest the answer is $10, right? But it's not; the real answer is zero. Everyone owes everyone else $1 dollar, and if they all pay that dollar back then the net amount of money in the 'system' is still $10 dollars. It's not like if everyone pays this dollar back now all of a sudden the 'system' is suddenly, magically, worth $20 dollars (which is what a 'global debt' of $10 dollars would suggest). An additional $10 dollars didn't just appear out of thin air. And we know this because in order to pay their "debt" they have to give a dollar back to someone else, but so too does someone else have to pay their dollar back to them. At the end of the day, everyone still has $1 dollar.

(BTW...This is where "Rocco" comes in. When one person borrows $1 from all (9) of the other people, then the only person with any money is that one person. When everyone wants their money back, Rocco comes and breaks your knees until you pay up. But I digress.)

Let's look at another example. Same (10) people, and each of them has a dollar. Now let's say someone prints another dollar (so there's now $11 dollars in the system). Nothing changed. One person halved their net value by printing a dollar, and everyone else's dollar is still worth $1. The net value in the system is still only $10 dollars (even though there are now (11) $1 dollar bills. It's just that (2) of those dollars are now only worth $0.50 cents (or everyone's $1 is now only worth 10/11ths of $1).

Printing money doesn't increase the value in the system, it only devalues the money already in the system by diluting it.

Now, I realize I have conveniently left out an important ingredient in all of this here, and I did this intentionally. The part I've left out is the notion of performing a unit of "work". I did this to keep the debt example simple, but if we scale up the debt discussion to current world levels we will find a lower threshold of debt. In other words, nobody has "zero" debt. So then, in theory, everything above the lowest threshold of debt is true debt (owning to someone), but everything below this threshold is theoretically non-existent. It is irrelevant.

Keep in mind, I am talking about fiat currencies here, which is the world we live in today (like it or not). Fiat currency is based on trust, nothing more. A fiat currency has no value of its own. So, what lies below this lower (minimum) threshold of debt? Inflation. It's pure inflation. It's money which cannot ever be paid back because it accomplishes nothing to pay it back (just like our $1 dollar example). Why? Because it never existed in the first place. Let's go back to our first example; everyone borrowed $1 dollar, and the debt is...mathematically $10 dollars, but in reality it's zero. The minimum threshold of debt is $1 dollar, and everyone owes $1 dollar. If right at this point in time you just erased all "debt"...everyone would still have $1 dollar.

Yes, I realize things are much more complicated than this in economics (my nephew and BIL are both PhD's in economics and economic professors at leading institutions, we discuss this often), but they are only more complicated because people make them more complicated, The fundamental principles still apply. TPTB want everyone to believe that all that money below the minimum threshold exists, so it will get paid to THEM. But it doesn't exist; it's just inflation. It's a shell game by the power brokers of the world to enslave the masses with imaginary debt.

It's a trick. A very clever, "global", trick, but a trick none the less.

One last thought (just so you won't think I'm nuts). I'll use our first example of (10) people. If one person borrows $10,000 dollars, first off, there isn't $10,000 dollars to borrow (so money will have to be printed to cover this, but this aside), and everyone else (the other 9) all only borrow $1 dollar, then the minimum threshold of debt is $1 (not $10,000). The person who borrowed $10,000 will still need to pay back $9,999 (leaving them with their original $1 dollar), but no one else pays a thing. Once the $10,000 is paid back (if they're smart), they will destroy the $10,000 by taking it out of circulation, thus leaving everyone with a $1 dollar which is worth exactly $1 dollar. If they don't do this, then everyone else's $1 dollar is only worth 1/10,000th of $1 dollar. Thus, if the minimum threshold of debt ($1 dollar) is just erased then the system has been normalized and there is zero debt. But what happens in modern society is that $10,000 dollars never gets destroyed and removed from circulation. But only (1) of the (10) people borrowed the money (the other 9 only borrowed a single dollar), and by so doing they devalued everyone else's money in the process.

That "one person" is guess who? The federal government!

[19Bones79]

Another thought on "Global Debt".  Every time I hear this my brain goes into 'limp mode' (anyone who owns a diesel truck will know what this reference means).  What is "global debt" anyway?  (rhetorical question).

Let's say the planet only has 10 people on it.  If one person borrows $1 dollar from another person, then the 'global debt' is $1 dollar, right?  And if another person borrows $1 dollar, then the global debt is $2 dollars, and so on, and so on.

Now let's say all (10) people each borrowed a dollar from someone else; what's the global debt then?  Simple math would suggest the answer is $10, right?  But it's not; the real answer is zero.  Everyone owes everyone else $1 dollar, and if they all pay that dollar back then the net amount of money in the 'system' is still $10 dollars.  It's not like if everyone pays this dollar back now all of a sudden the 'system' is suddenly, magically, worth $20 dollars (which is what a 'global debt' of $10 dollars would suggest).  An additional $10 dollars didn't just appear out of thin air.  And we know this because in order to pay their "debt" they have to give a dollar back to someone else, but so too does someone else have to pay their dollar back to them.  At the end of the day, everyone still has $1 dollar.

(BTW...This is where "Rocco" comes in.  When one person borrows $1 from all (9) of the other people, then the only person with any money is that one person.  When everyone wants their money back, Rocco comes and breaks your knees until you pay up.  But I digress.)

Let's look at another example.  Same (10) people, and each of them has a dollar.  Now let's say someone prints another dollar (so there's now $11 dollars in the system).  Nothing changed.  One person halved their net value by printing a dollar, and everyone else's dollar is still worth $1.  The net value in the system is still only $10 dollars (even though there are now (11) $1 dollar bills.  It's just that (2) of those dollars are now only worth $0.50 cents (or everyone's $1 is now only worth 10/11ths of $1). 

Printing money doesn't increase the value in the system, it only devalues the money already in the system by diluting it. 

Now, I realize I have conveniently left out an important ingredient in all of this here, and I did this intentionally.  The part I've left out is the notion of performing a unit of "work".  I did this to keep the debt example simple, but if we scale up the debt discussion to current world levels we will find a lower threshold of debt.  In other words, nobody has "zero" debt.  So then, in theory, everything above the lowest threshold of debt is true debt (owning to someone), but everything below this threshold is theoretically non-existent.  It is irrelevant. 

Keep in mind, I am talking about fiat currencies here, which is the world we live in today (like it or not).  Fiat currency is based on trust, nothing more.  A fiat currency has no value of its own.  So, what lies below this lower (minimum) threshold of debt?  Inflation.  It's pure inflation.  It's money which cannot ever be paid back because it accomplishes nothing to pay it back (just like our $1 dollar example).  Why?  Because it never existed in the first place.  Let's go back to our first example; everyone borrowed $1 dollar, and the debt is...mathematically $10 dollars, but in reality it's zero.  The minimum threshold of debt is $1 dollar, and everyone owes $1 dollar.  If right at this point in time you just erased all "debt"...everyone would still have $1 dollar.

Yes, I realize things are much more complicated than this in economics (my nephew and BIL are both PhD's in economics and economic professors at leading institutions, we discuss this often), but they are only more complicated because people make them more complicated,  The fundamental principles still apply.  TPTB want everyone to believe that all that money below the minimum threshold exists, so it will get paid to THEM.  But it doesn't exist; it's just inflation.  It's a shell game by the power brokers of the world to enslave the masses with imaginary debt.

It's a trick.  A very clever, "global", trick, but a trick none the less.

One last thought (just so you won't think I'm nuts).  I'll use our first example of (10) people.  If one person borrows $10,000 dollars, first off, there isn't $10,000 dollars to borrow (so money will have to be printed to cover this, but this aside), and everyone else (the other 9) all only borrow $1 dollar, then the minimum threshold of debt is $1 (not $10,000).  The person who borrowed $10,000 will still need to pay back $9,999 (leaving them with their original $1 dollar), but no one else pays a thing.  Once the $10,000 is paid back (if they're smart), they will destroy the $10,000 by taking it out of circulation, thus leaving everyone with a $1 dollar which is worth exactly $1 dollar.  If they don't do this, then everyone else's $1 dollar is only worth 1/10,000th of $1 dollar.  Thus, if the minimum threshold of debt ($1 dollar) is just erased then the system has been normalized and there is zero debt.  But what happens in modern society is that $10,000 dollars never gets destroyed and removed from circulation.  But only (1) of the (10) people borrowed the money (the other 9 only borrowed a single dollar), and by so doing they devalued everyone else's money in the process. 

That "one person" is guess who?  The federal government!

It's literally magic. 

At this point the US should declare bankruptcy like an individual, wait 5 years to get its name cleared and start over. 

Imagine the heart attack at the Fed if some president did that. 

Let's say we all got into a giant spaceship and f*ed off to Aplha Centauri. 

What happens to those trillions of debt?

Poof. 

It vanishes into thin air and it leaves zero trace on its surroundings. 

They have to make you believe the construct in order for it to work. 

And to do that you need control over places of learning, the media, politics, basically everything because this system has never been successfully challenged and no politician even mentions it unless they are trying to boost their credibility with the people before they get into a place where they can 'affect' change. 

Nothing ever comes of it though. 

Here's a question if someone can refer me to the answer I would really appreciate it because apparently all information is out there you just have to find it. 

Which private shareholding individual has made the most money from the federal reserve banks loaning out money that has to be paid back with interest. 

I mean it's the most powerful institution on earth, surely these people are proud of their achievements and not hiding like rats?

[MykeNukem]

...unfortunately Wikipedia talks about the Kalergi plan conspiracy without listing the conspiracy claims which is a little odd. 

Luckily I was able to find it for us:

1. The creation of racism offences.

I don't see any fences that are racist.. 

2. Continual change to create confusion. 

Huh? 

3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children. 

Awwww hell no! 

4. The undermining of teacher's and school's authority.

Spare the rod, it's expensive. And spoil the child, go on, spoil them rotten. You know you want to, Gramma! 

5. Huge emigration to destroy identity. 

I'm not emigrating. Are you? If so, how did it destroy your identity? 

Ergo, duh. 

6. The promotion of excessive drinking.

Nonsense. I'm down to one bud light and a tranny per day. 

7. Emptying of churches.

Monday through Saturday, right?

8. An unreliable justice system with bias against victims.

Ruth! You just had to hang on for a couple more days dammit it's all your fault!

9. Dependency on State and state benefits.

I mean who doesn't like free stuff? And stuff.

10. Control and dumbing down of media.

I don't see any of that I only get my news from CNN, the most trusted name in news. 

11. Encouraging the breakdown of family.

Then why is there a song called We Are Family?!?


Checkmate, haters. 

Document: Myth Busted!


Ahhh, time for a Bud-Lite®. 


:drinkingcheers:

Nice thread and no doubt, whether you call it the Kalergi plan or not, the simple fact of reality, is, it's happening. 

Even just from a mathematical perspective it's an inevitable outcome, especially with Western nations ramping up immigration and letting illegals in, unfettered.

I believe all people are created equal, but all societies are not. Some are incompatible with each other and the chaos we see everywhere this is happening, is it's own testimonial.

Like most conspiracy 'theory' it has become conspiracy 'truth' ..

k, now where's my f'n beer ..