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Define Greatest Ally

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"The U.S.-Israel alliance was born out of strategy, not moral or religious considerations, and without any such foundation, it will decline."

I wonder if Zionists would agree and if so, can they lay out that strategy in clear terms while keeping in mind the history of the last 100 years?

I'm under the impression that the biggest motivator for American Zionists are indeed moral and religious considerations...

Maybe I'm wrong?


The quote above comes from an article written by this gentleman :

"JORDAN CHANDLER HIRSCH is a senior fellow in the Technology, Security, and Global Affairs Program at the Robert Strauss Center for International Security and Law."

Link to Journal



Then, there's this straight from the website of the Council on Foreign Relations, or CFR as we've come to know them.


" Since the 1980s, Israel has had robust technological cooperation and trade with the U.S. while often, in deference to U.S. security concerns, limiting the sale of some technologies to China. This delicate strategy is becoming harder to maintain as China becomes more interested in Israeli tech and tensions between Washington and Beijing grow. "

And this:

"Israel began selling military technology such as missiles, radars, and navigation systems to China in the 1980s, even before Beijing recognized Israel, and technology trade quietly intensified in the 1990s. At the same time, there were a string of allegations that Israel transferred sensitive military technology to China. Concerned about China’s potential use of advanced airborne early-warning (AEW) radar systems, the United States dissuaded Israel from lucrative arms deals in 2000 and 2005, souring Chinese-Israeli security trade relations. No further sales of military technology between China and Israel have been reported since. "

This article on the CFR website is dated July 30, 2019.

Link to CFR Article The underlined part is my doing to illustrate a modified version of the initial quote in the OP:

""The Israel-China alliance was born out of strategy, not moral or religious considerations, and without any such foundation, it will decline."


Now, I'm very sure that the people at the CFR would consider themselves as 'clued up' with regards to.... Foreign Relations.

Which is why I'm confused as to why they would omit a serious change in the relationship such as this:


Military.com "Report: Israel Passes U.S. Military Technology to China" 

Published December 24, 2013. 

That's about 4 1/2 years prior to the article on the CFR website. 


"Secret U.S. missile and electro-optics technology was transferred to China recently by Israel, prompting anger from the U.S. and causing a senior Israeli defense official to resign." 


Still comfortable with the "Our greatest Ally" moniker? 


"Another Israeli news site, Aretz Sheva, reports the U.S. is concerned the technology could ultimately find its way to Iran, which last year sought to buy military equipment from China for its nuclear program." 


How about now? 


I can clearly see the chessboard, I'm just wondering if others would agree. 

More from the military.com article :

" Israel has a long record of getting U.S. military technology to China.

In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, The Associated Press reported in 2002."



My search browser comes up with this description of the term "Our Greatest Ally" :


Overall, the phrase “our greatest ally” emphasizes the importance of having a strong and reliable source of support, whether it be internal, spiritual, or external.


Imagine this was a marriage. I wonder how many Zionists would hang around after such a massive, ongoing betrayal?





What of US liberty then?

How can a small group of 7.2 million people keep the mightiest nation in the world on a short leash?

Don't use spiritual reasons...

... or do.

I see two large dogs squaring up while a third, much smaller dog barks incessantly to egg them on.
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I may be all wet as history and politics aren't my forte, but what I see is this:

Fauci used Africa and Wuhan to further his research, which would have been illegal to do in the US. Perhaps Israel is the USA's Fauci?
If you want to get over any kind of technological block in research you 'outsource' it to other research facilities-not the whole program, just a few peices while you maintain power over the project through funding. When they get the answers you were looking for, you defund and sanction them.

China is known to be the best reverse engineers on the planet.Some of the best-and perhaps most dangerous surveillance and military technology in the world.
Does Israel plan to be the leader in a One World Government?

The US gave amnesty to thousands of WWII Nazi criminals in exchange for their scientific knowledge[ that's some bad juju, IMHO. I have watched the US follow Hitler's path implemented in slow motion in the US my wntire life. If my gut insticts are right the plan is nearing completion.

So, here we are again; will Trump be setting 'the plan' back by four more years or is he the Trojan Horse that some believe him to be?
Whatever the answer, it's obvious we're all living in the fast lane now.
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(10 hours ago)Nugget Wrote: I may be all wet as history and politics aren't my forte, but what I see is this:

Fauci used Africa and Wuhan to further his research, which would have been illegal to do in the US. Perhaps Israel is the USA's Fauci?
If you want to get over any kind of technological block in research you 'outsource' it to other research facilities-not the whole program, just a few peices while you maintain power over the project through funding. When they get the answers you were looking for, you defund and sanction them.

China is known to be the best reverse engineers on the planet.Some of the best-and perhaps most dangerous surveillance and military technology in the world.
Does Israel plan to be the leader in a One World Government?

The US gave amnesty to thousands of WWII Nazi criminals in exchange for their scientific knowledge[ that's some bad juju, IMHO. I have watched the US follow Hitler's path implemented in slow motion in the US my wntire life. If my gut insticts are right the plan is nearing completion.

So, here we are again; will Trump be setting 'the plan' back by four more years or is he the Trojan Horse that some believe him to be?
Whatever the answer, it's obvious we're all living in the fast lane now.

I couldn't agree more the USA-Nazi love affair was not motivated by moral or spiritual reasons at all but for strategic reasons.

And yes this does feel like the fast lane, but I suspect a couple more surprises to help shift our perspective to 'the new normal'. 

Isn't that just one of the most retarded statements in the history of the world?

I mean who woke up and decided on those exact words? And why did it catch on worldwide? 

I read somewhere probably on X how Netanyahu is meant to be Israel's sacrificial lamb before their Messiah arrives.

And it ain't Jesus.

2025 is going to be something else.
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