All Experiences Strange and/or Esoteric

[Nugget]

Everybody I've ever met has had a least one strange, unexplainable event in their life. My entire life seems to have interacted with a world most refrain from acknowledging. 

I've found answers to many, but not all. ATS and MPP has been emensely helpful, but there are still unexplained experiences that I seek answers to. It occurs to me that I may not have gotten them because I don't know what the question is. 

I would like this thread to be about all the unusual, unexplained aspects of our existance that people may have had.

I was a 'late bloomer' who wasn't allowed out of my cage until the age of 29. Adjusting to working in a world and so many things I was unfamiliar with was pretty overwhelming! 
One thing that really took me off guard was the 'inner knowing' of what trauma other people had experienced in their life. Of course you can't just ask someone about such things, but working in a boring factory tends to make women chatter boxes. 
As my co-workers would open up to me I would discover that this 'inner knowing' was spot on.

Throughout the years it remains active, and it's actually helped me to get along with that squeaky wheel that nobody else can stand.

I developed a theory that I can somehow sense what someone else has experienced because I have had the same or similar experience and know what those emotions feel like. I can 'feel' their emotions and thus recognize their origin.

Only one time has it failed me. A temp filled in when our line was lacking one person due to illness. I felt the 'knowing' that she had had an abortion.
Many months later we worked side by side; she, the chatterbox, me the silent listener. Turns out my perseption had been spot on. No; I have never experienced such a thing, and that is the only instance it's happened.

I think our shared emotions can give us a glimps into others if we are receptive to listening with our hearts.

I would like this thread to be a free-for-all where we can examine things that have no explaination in hopes of possibly shedding some light on them with our collective minds, if anyone else is game.

[NobodySpecial268]

Here is one for you to think about Nugget.

I posted this originally on Rogue Nation.

There is a memory that most people have. The memory is holding a baby for the first time, and feeling a sense of wonder at its utter helplessness and dependency on adult. This evokes special feelings of protectiveness in the adult.

What is special is those evoked feelings. We can relive the event by recalling.

Now let us think of someone we wish to heal. Perhaps they are miserable.

So take the thought-feeling of the target we wish to help and picture holding them in our arms.

Now recall the experience of holding the baby and wrap the target in this.

Try it on kids who are distracted watching TV in the lounge room.

They will generally turn around and look at you.

[Nugget]

Try it on kids who are distracted watching TV in the lounge room.

They will generally turn around and look at you.

Thank you for that information, Nobody!
I read this on your ATS thread with a great deal of interest. Our 18 y/o Granddaughter recently moved in with us and is definitely in need of some serious healing. 

I recently watched a video interview with indeginous healer Shawn Leonard and he mentioned our lives are affected by 7 generations past and 7 generations forward....and it's important to take a stance to break and heal generational trauma.
That really resonated with me, and coming from a long line of alcoholics and I decided at a young age not to mess with the devils drink. Sadly, it didn't work with all of my children.

Babies are extra special to me, and I think I must be to them also. All my life babies have looked above the top of my head and they get so excited you can't help but laugh with them. They'll grin and coo, kicking and waving their arms.  I jokingly tell their parents I think I have an invisible clown above me.

Babies are born with all senses working and it isn't until they become mobile that they quit relying on their ability to 'feel' the world around them. They gradually loose that ability- if they're raised in a secure environment; if they're not raised to feel safe that extra awareness can serve to help them escape danger. 

They also run the risk of having their minds fractured, which reminds me of MK-ULTRA. Every empath, mystic, etc. I've ever met has had a story of early trauma, which I'm not convinced can ever be completely healed. 

One thing I read a while back really put life in perspective for me; "We attract the lessons we most need to learn in life". When you look at the lesson and not the actual event it completely changes one's perspective.

It can be a lonely world for people who see, hear, know things that others do not- especially if they're considered signs of mental illness or 'demon possession'.

[NobodySpecial268]

Thank you for that information, Nobody!
I read this on your ATS thread with a great deal of interest. Our 18 y/o Granddaughter recently moved in with us and is definitely in need of some serious healing. 

I recently watched a video interview with indeginous healer Shawn Leonard and he mentioned our lives are affected by 7 generations past and 7 generations forward....and it's important to take a stance to break and heal generational trauma.
That really resonated with me, and coming from a long line of alcoholics and I decided at a young age not to mess with the devils drink. Sadly, it didn't work with all of my children.

Babies are extra special to me, and I think I must be to them also. All my life babies have looked above the top of my head and they get so excited you can't help but laugh with them. They'll grin and coo, kicking and waving their arms.  I jokingly tell their parents I think I have an invisible clown above me.

Babies are born with all senses working and it isn't until they become mobile that they quit relying on their ability to 'feel' the world around them. They gradually loose that ability- if they're raised in a secure environment; if they're not raised to feel safe that extra awareness can serve to help them escape danger. 

They also run the risk of having their minds fractured, which reminds me of MK-ULTRA. Every empath, mystic, etc. I've ever met has had a story of early trauma, which I'm not convinced can ever be completely healed. 

One thing I read a while back really put life in perspective for me; "We attract the lessons we most need to learn in life". When you look at the lesson and not the actual event it completely changes one's perspective.

It can be a lonely world for people who see, hear, know things that others do not- especially if they're considered signs of mental illness or 'demon possession'.

You're right when you connect trauma and feeling safe. Trauma will create a feeling of not feeling safe. So the exercise was designed to fix that feeling of vulnerability. I developed it for treating trauma in deceased children and also a "schizophrenic" girl in the United States.

That exercise is deceptively simple, but must be practiced often. Practice until you can do it automatically with various targets.

The premise is simple: Happiness is the default state of the human Being. Happiness cannot coexist with misery. Misery accumulates.

So what we do is to envelope (as in surround) the target with the protective feeling.

We don't try to treat a person in this way for prolonged periods as if a meditation.

What we do is short and sharp repetitions which are more impactful than prolonged treatment.

What you are looking for as a success criterion is the frequency of smiles. Pay attention to the target's smiles before starting treatment using this technique.

I will say that children are easier than adults, adults have a lot of baggage, and some adults even like to be miserable. It gives them a "woe is me" talking point. The elderly especially.

Once one masters this there is a lot more that can be done. This is also an introduction to working at a distance.

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ETA: When practicing this exercise, the daydream state is appropriate. If one forgets where one is for a short time, that is correct. I should add that we do this internally. It does not matter where the target is.

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NobodySpecial268

That's so very similar to healing cerimonies and different techniques I'm familiar with. I think thre ability to heal is an innate part of of every human being.

A co-worker lost her 9 month old baby due to a heart defect and I spent quite a bit of time talking to her (mentally) until I finally cried myself to sleep. When she returned to work after a short leave she sought me out and told me how she felt I had somehow 'visited' with her on that sad night. Enough details of the conversation were said that I knew it wasn't my immagination.

I'm kind of a 'deathe' magnate. I have been visited by the recently departed before I even knew they had passed (officially knew, that is). For some strange reason, I know if an animal is going to cross over, even if they're perfectly healthy, like the time a dog in the neighborhood got hit by a car.

It's kind of like when a friend you hadn't thought about for years comes to mind and then you run into them the next day-but instead you hear of the passing. You already knew.

I don't know why things like this happen; just that they do.

[NobodySpecial268]

NobodySpecial268

That's so very similar to healing cerimonies and different techniques I'm familiar with. I think thre ability to heal is an innate part of of every human being.

A co-worker lost her 9 month old baby due to a heart defect and I spent quite a bit of time talking to her (mentally) until I finally cried myself to sleep. When she returned to work after a short leave she sought me out and told me how she felt I had somehow 'visited' with her on that sad night. Enough details of the conversation were said that I knew it wasn't my immagination.

I'm kind of a 'deathe' magnate. I have been visited by the recently departed before I even knew they had passed (officially knew, that is). For some strange reason, I know if an animal is going to cross over, even if they're perfectly healthy, like the time a dog in the neighborhood got hit by a car.

It's kind of like when a friend you hadn't thought about for years comes to mind and then you run into them the next day-but instead you hear of the passing. You already knew.

I don't know why things like this happen; just that they do.

It is amazing what humans can do naturally when they relax. All it takes is the ability for empathy, and practice. Let me know when you can trigger a smile in your granddaughter with just a thought-feeling. I'll tell you more, but these things are for practice rather than talking about intellectually.

[Nugget]

It is amazing what humans can do naturally when they relax. All it takes is the ability for empathy, and practice. Let me know when you can trigger a smile in your granddaughter with just a thought-feeling. I'll tell you more, but these things are for practice rather than talking about intellectually.

Thank you! I most definitely will! She is away for the weekend, but I will give it a go Sunday evening!

One of the most confusing things for me was learning to seperate my feelings fromthose of others. When I saw a smiling face yet sensed a seething hostility all it took was the passing of time to reveal which was accurate.

When people feel overwhelming anxiety for no explainable reason I think it may well be coming from the emotions of others, but modern medicine has a pill for that now. 
I used to think the zombie culture was the most rediculous thing I'd ever heard, but looking around at society I think many have become 'zombiefied' to some degree. 'Better living through modern chemistry' has become a form of worship almost.

[NobodySpecial268]

Thank you! I most definitely will! She is away for the weekend, but I will give it a go Sunday evening!

One of the most confusing things for me was learning to seperate my feelings fromthose of others. When I saw a smiling face yet sensed a seething hostility all it took was the passing of time to reveal which was accurate.

When people feel overwhelming anxiety for no explainable reason I think it may well be coming from the emotions of others, but modern medicine has a pill for that now. 
I used to think the zombie culture was the most rediculous thing I'd ever heard, but looking around at society I think many have become 'zombiefied' to some degree. 'Better living through modern chemistry' has become a form of worship almost.

Practice anyway, just for short durations. There is no reason for her to be present except for seeing her reaction, a confirmation for you to know it works. Even if she becomes happier overall you'll know it is working.

Since you are family, you would probably remember holding her in your arms as a small child, that is the first important thing. Remembering the protective feeling is the second important thing. Then just put them together.

A reminder that this is not a visualisation exercise, we don't mentally create anything new, like imagining something happening. We work with our memory and our own emotions. Nor is this a 'sending exercise', we don't actually send anything across distance. We do all the work internally.

When people feel overwhelming anxiety for no explainable reason I think it may well be coming from the emotions of others

Yes I have trouble there too, especially with depression. For a long time, I felt a lot of very strong depression, for almost a year. I thought it was mine until I found a "not exactly earthly human girl" who I had not noticed, but she had noticed me. She despaired that I wouldn't realise she was there, and she feared she would never be rescued.

All that misery I experienced every day was not mine, but hers. It was very strong.

So "yes" you are right, pills won't fix anything in this context.

What cured my depression was working out how to fix her problem and putting it into practice.

[NobodySpecial268]

When people feel overwhelming anxiety for no explainable reason I think it may well be coming from the emotions of others, but modern medicine has a pill for that now. 
I used to think the zombie culture was the most rediculous thing I'd ever heard, but looking around at society I think many have become 'zombiefied' to some degree. 'Better living through modern chemistry' has become a form of worship almost.

In the context of empathy, America's medication and subsequent zombification probably indicates there is a bigger problem that isn't being fixed.

[Nugget]

In the context of empathy, America's medication and subsequent zombification probably indicates there is a bigger problem that isn't being fixed.

You're absolutely right about that. I was born at the end of WWll and saw first hand the struggle to overcome hardship. It took a lot of strength, and as the years rolled on the government stepped in to create 'safety nets' for the disadvantaged in the 60's. Low income housing and food stamps has gradually morphed into all kinds of subsistance program, to where the 'disadvantaged' live like royality compared to people in other countries.....but never having learned how to deal with true adversity has made for a few generations of weak people who have no idea how to be self-reliant. 
Their focus is geared towards the appearance of success; material things. We seem to have lost touch with our spiritual nature. Even the organized religions are rapidly loosing members.
The pendulem with rech its equilibrium point one day, but I think that may still a ways off in the future.