The MSM works.  Not as great as it used to obviously but it still functions, profits and holds sway over a large part of the electorate. Has anyone considered why?

I'm of the opinion that it is directly tied to our education system.  With the ever present institution that it has become for indoctrination it also has been reducing standards and restricting methods relating to free thought. 

Instead of teaching from a young age to think, the application has become teach for what to think.

(09-23-2024, 08:28 AM)JinMI Wrote: The MSM works.  Not as great as it used to obviously but it still functions, profits and holds sway over a large part of the electorate. Has anyone considered why?

I'm of the opinion that it is directly tied to our education system.  With the ever present institution that it has become for indoctrination it also has been reducing standards and restricting methods relating to free thought. 

Instead of teaching from a young age to think, the application has become teach for what to think.

A famous Canadian once said "The medium is the message"

Quote:"The medium is the message" is a phrase coined by the Canadian communication theorist Marshall McLuhan and the name of the first chapter[1] in his Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man, published in 1964.[2][3] McLuhan proposes that a communication medium itself, not the messages it carries, should be the primary focus of study.[4] The concept has been applied by others in discussions of technologies from television to the Internet. wiki

I think he was on to something and we're about to see it in real-time with A.I.

Though, you need a dumbed down populace to achieve this....check...✔

I have said this before...obviously not on this site, yet...but:

Read the Books Propaganda and Crystalizing Public Opinion by Edward Bernays.

Bernays worked at times for the OSS and CIA. I believe most, if not all of MK Ultra can be watered down to these 2 books.

(09-23-2024, 10:11 AM)MykeNukem Wrote:

(09-23-2024, 08:28 AM)JinMI Wrote: The MSM works.  Not as great as it used to obviously but it still functions, profits and holds sway over a large part of the electorate. Has anyone considered why?

I'm of the opinion that it is directly tied to our education system.  With the ever present institution that it has become for indoctrination it also has been reducing standards and restricting methods relating to free thought. 

Instead of teaching from a young age to think, the application has become teach for what to think.

A famous Canadian once said "The medium is the message"

Quote:"The medium is the message" is a phrase coined by the Canadian communication theorist Marshall McLuhan and the name of the first chapter[1] in his Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man, published in 1964.[2][3] McLuhan proposes that a communication medium itself, not the messages it carries, should be the primary focus of study.[4] The concept has been applied by others in discussions of technologies from television to the Internet. wiki

I think he was on to something and we're about to see it in real-time with A.I.

Though, you need a dumbed down populace to achieve this....check...✔

Imagine 2-5-10 years into the future with AI.  From drawing up laws, lawsuits, policy and of course rhetoric.  

It's going to be a very strange world to us slightly older folks that grew up at a time before all this existed.  Even more strange for those who will not be able to find work.

And with an education that is baseless and functionless...

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(09-23-2024, 10:38 AM)Theatreboy Wrote: I have said this before...obviously not on this site, yet...but:

Read the Books Propaganda and Crystalizing Public Opinion by Edward Bernays.

Bernays worked at times for the OSS and CIA. I believe most, if not all of MK Ultra can be watered down to these 2 books.

When the Church commission exposed Project Mockingbird, that should have been the national wake-up call.  It wasn't and infact it almost was seemingly interpreted as permission to keep acting in propaganda and bad faithed reporting. 

Toss in the repudiation of the Smith-Mundt act and you have a recipe that the Chinese wish they could master.

@JinMI

The thing about the first half of your reply that scares me...not you, the idea...is that people think AI thinks and reasons for itself. (Honestly, that is how it is portrayed in both fiction and non-fiction)

AI only learns how and what it is programmed to learn.

It is truly being portrayed as a benevolent god, but it can't be...which makes it something close to an antichrist type thing.

(09-23-2024, 10:55 AM)Theatreboy Wrote: @JinMI

The thing about the first half of your reply that scares me...not you, the idea...is that people think AI thinks and reasons for itself. (Honestly, that is how it is portrayed in both fiction and non-fiction)

AI only learns how and what it is programmed to learn.

It is truly being portrayed as a benevolent god, but it can't be...which makes it something close to an antichrist type thing.

Agreed.  

Even AI is not above the Garbage In/Garbage Out paradigm.  

If we truly are in a downward spiral of humanity, which I do believe, then it can be logically concluded that AI will expedite that because of the GIGO designs.

(09-23-2024, 11:00 AM)JinMI Wrote:

(09-23-2024, 10:55 AM)Theatreboy Wrote: @JinMI

The thing about the first half of your reply that scares me...not you, the idea...is that people think AI thinks and reasons for itself. (Honestly, that is how it is portrayed in both fiction and non-fiction)

AI only learns how and what it is programmed to learn.

It is truly being portrayed as a benevolent god, but it can't be...which makes it something close to an antichrist type thing.

Agreed.  

Even AI is not above the Garbage In/Garbage Out paradigm.  

If we truly are in a downward spiral of humanity, which I do believe, then it can be logically concluded that AI will expedite that because of the GIGO designs.

I have come to the conclusion that we are not evolving, but devolving...hence the big push of evolution. 

But that is a separate topic, entirely.

I also think the MSM is so effective, bc we have been told to trust the experts. 

And just what qualifies one to be an expert? It seems if you agree with this progressive hivemind, you are an expert. 

If not, you are a hater, not an expert.

(09-23-2024, 11:11 AM)Theatreboy Wrote:

(09-23-2024, 11:00 AM)JinMI Wrote:

(09-23-2024, 10:55 AM)Theatreboy Wrote: @JinMI

The thing about the first half of your reply that scares me...not you, the idea...is that people think AI thinks and reasons for itself. (Honestly, that is how it is portrayed in both fiction and non-fiction)

AI only learns how and what it is programmed to learn.

It is truly being portrayed as a benevolent god, but it can't be...which makes it something close to an antichrist type thing.

Agreed.  

Even AI is not above the Garbage In/Garbage Out paradigm.  

If we truly are in a downward spiral of humanity, which I do believe, then it can be logically concluded that AI will expedite that because of the GIGO designs.

I have come to the conclusion that we are not evolving, but devolving...hence the big push of evolution. 

But that is a separate topic, entirely.

I also think the MSM is so effective, bc we have been told to trust the experts. 

And just what qualifies one to be an expert? It seems if you agree with this progressive hivemind, you are an expert. 

If not, you are a hater, not an expert.

I think you are speaking to meritocracy. 

Expertise must be demonstrated, not spoken. 

The new Matt Walsh movie, "Am I Racist" seems to hammer this notion home. 

(I haven't seen it yet, just clips.)

I watched the trailer, it looks great. I may actually go to a theater to see it.