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Divided and Conquered

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Divide and conquer, a technique used to weaken the enemy is often applied to left/right politics. I hear the claims that the deep-state players are using this to control the masses by keeping them at each other's throats and distracted from the people behind the curtain pulling the strings.

I believe whoever is using this technique has succeeded. There is no middle ground now, there is no opinion, no matter how logical, fact-based, or unbiased, that will not be placed on one side or the other. Families are being torn apart by this political polarity and it sure seems to be serving a purpose. My girlfriend experienced this personally at a recent funeral in her family.

I have an example of my own to illustrate the point. The incident with the black kid in Kentucky (correction, Texas) at the track meet who stabbed a white kid who told him to leave his seat. When that report hit the media, the facts were scant and people automatically made assumptions, you know the kind. A young black male stabs a white guy to death, so it is a problem black people have with violence. The other side of that is young southern white boys threatening an "uppity black" to leave his seat who then defends himself.

If you are a liberal who would wonder out loud if the black kid was a murdering criminal, your liberal friends would call you a red-neck Trump MAGA Nazi. Conversely, if you were a conservative white guy who wondered if this was some racist southern white boys threatening a black guy who had the right of self-defense, then you are automatically a closet liberal or some kind of political double agent. In some circles, you'd be called a fag or a Jew as well.

Now, I'm hearing that this black kid had it out for the white kid he stabbed to death, if so, then it was premeditated murder. Then, as predicted, this kid is the new liberal martyr who needs a go fund me for his defense and is racking up the defense funds as we speak. Meanwhile, the media is trying to imply the white kids were racist militant MAGA types because of a picture of them out hunting in camo clothes.

Unless I am making my observations public in the appropriate echo chamber, I will be doomed to be labeled one way or the other. You cannot be moderate anymore, you can't look at both sides and voice your independent thoughts and ideas without being placed in one camp or the other. We have already been divided and conquered when moderate objectivity is no longer allowed.

If I were to point out the extreme propaganda and rhetoric of both sides, I'd still get pigeon holed into one side or the other. I find that I must self-censor in public now, I discovered this at a local restaurant recently, not that I disagreed with the talk I heard. I have to keep it to myself for the most part, and that is the goal here, to stifle our free speech and keep us divided and unorganized.
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(04-08-2025, 10:20 AM)Michigan Swampbuck Wrote: Divide and conquer, a technique used to weaken the enemy is often applied to left/right politics. I hear the claims that the deep-state players are using this to control the masses by keeping them at each other's throats and distracted from the people behind the curtain pulling the strings.

I believe whoever is using this technique has succeeded. There is no middle ground now, there is no opinion, no matter how logical, fact-based, or unbiased, that will not be placed on one side or the other. Families are being torn apart by this political polarity and it sure seems to be serving a purpose.

I agree that polarization is real, and a big problem. What I don't agree with is your suggestion that someone or some group did this to us intentionally.

I think today's political polarization is the natural consequence of how we consume media, which is itself a consequence of technological advances in media which were not intended to divide us, rather to get our attention. We are in an attention economy, and competition for our attention is fierce. Political polarization, among other things, is a side effect of this. Now that we have the pick of the litter in how to get our instant dopamine, the way to get and keep our attention is to make us feel good about ourselves in as little time as possible (content is getting shorter and shorter, have you noticed?). The algorithms in our social media, as well as content creators, have become very good at doing so. They have to be, or they get outcompeted. They grab and keep our attention by offering us content that quickly validates us and confirms our existing beliefs, and does it in a way that provokes a strong emotional reaction. Often, it blames others for our problems. After all, we don't want to self-reflect. That's painful and consumes our energy. We don't want to spend energy. We're doing enough of that during our day job. We want to feel validated, right now.

In short, we have lost the muscle memory, or the passion, or both, to spend energy in the pursuit of knowledge. People don't listen to Andrew Tate or Joe Rogan or Hasan Piker to get informed (although they may think that's why), they do it because it makes them feel good.

Ultimately, it's not modern (social) media's fault. Modern media is, after all, exactly what we want it to be. Social media platforms were developed by people who wanted to make money by grabbing our attention, nothing more, nothing less. It's our own fault that our attention is so easily grabbed by validating, radicalizing content. But entertaining that thought would be self-reflection, and that's painful. It's more comfortable to blame others (e.g. this "deep state" you're talking about) for our problems. In the rare occasion that we run into content that challenges our belief, we simply ignore it. This is an opportunity for you not to.

Quote:I have an example of my own to illustrate the point. The incident with the black kid in Kentucky (correction, Texas) at the track meet who stabbed a white kid who told him to leave his seat. When that report hit the media, the facts were scant and people automatically made assumptions, you know the kind. A young black male stabs a white guy to death, so it is a problem black people have with violence. The other side of that is young southern white boys threatening an "uppity black" to leave his seat who then defends himself.

If you are a liberal who would wonder out loud if the black kid was a murdering criminal, your liberal friends would call you a red-neck Trump MAGA Nazi. Conversely, if you were a conservative white guy who wondered if this was some racist southern white boys threatening a black guy who had the right of self-defense, then you are automatically a closet liberal or some kind of political double agent. In some circles, you'd be called a fag or a Jew as well.

Now, I'm hearing that this black kid had it out for the white kid he stabbed to death, if so, then it was premeditated murder. Then, as predicted, this kid is the new liberal martyr who needs a go fund me for his defense and is racking up the defense funds as we speak. Meanwhile, the media is trying to imply the white kids were racist militant MAGA types because of a picture of them out hunting in camo clothes.

Unless I am making my observations public in the appropriate echo chamber, I will be doomed to be labeled one way or the other. You cannot be moderate anymore, you can't look at both sides and voice your independent thoughts and ideas without being placed in one camp or the other. We have already been divided and conquered when moderate objectivity is no longer allowed.

If I were to point out the extreme propaganda and rhetoric of both sides, I'd still get pigeon holed into one side or the other. I find that I must self-censor in public now, I discovered this at a local restaurant recently, not that I disagreed with the talk I heard. I have to keep it to myself for the most part, and that is the goal here, to stifle our free speech and keep us divided and unorganized.

I haven't heard about this event and know nothing about it, but if your characterization is accurate, the black kid is obviously a murdering criminal. If all the other kid did was say something to him, killing him couldn't have been self defense. No matter what they said, murdering them in response is obviously wrong. I know plenty of "liberals", none of whom would crucify me for saying this.
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MSB, it's a crazy case to be sure.  From all accounts I've seen the whole thing went down in the blink of an eye.  I don't buy the 'self-defense' angle, but with the crazy liberals anymore I guess it's okay to go on a stabbing spree if someone touches you, so it will be interesting to see what happens.  Sure looks like Murder-2 at the very least.  If there was intent, as you suggest, then it should be Murder-1.  I thought I read that the kid was charged with Murder-1 which surprised me.  If all the witness accounts are accurate, and the two truly didn't know each other, then Murder-1 would be almost impossible to prove (which would mean a likely acquittal, unless the DA backed off and convinced the defense to plead to a lesser like Murder-3 (manslaughter essentially)).

Here's one thing I do know though (not an opinion).  Yesterday I read an article which said that the black kid had received several hundred thousand dollars to fund his defense from donors.  Much like the murderer who killed that insurance executive in NYC.  To your point, this kind of tells you were the public's head is at with this case.  Now you can become a hero if you kill whitey and insurance execs!  Society is rewarding this behavior!  It's pretty fucking twisted if you ask me.
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#4
Thanks guys, no one tore me a new one for expressing my opinion, and have even offered some very thought-provoking responses.
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More has been released about that case, it wasn't exactly the way I thought about it. Still, it was merely an example of what I was talking about.
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