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Grok and Me: Noahide Laws

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(03-03-2025, 08:51 PM)MykeNukem Wrote: Hey Bonesy,

Yea, I should have been more specific. In this case, yes, the Torah. 

What I meant was absent input from the Talmud.


I guess what I was getting at is how to reconcile the fact that a lot, if not most of, what the 'Rabbis' do goes against the Laws of the Torah.

Similar to how a lot of what Christian preachers do is against the teachings of the New Testament.

I find that hard to reconcile with them being in control of the text at some point.

Drinkingcheers

I understand your question in the context of the text being put forth for altruistic reasons.

I look at the deeds(results) more than the text itself even though the text is brutal at times, because since humanity first developed language and the written word I'm pretty convinced both were utilized to enforce a cohesive narrative which leads to cultural identity being formalized instead of being something fluid that develops organically overtime.

If language is accurately described as a labeler of personal perception, then a narrative can be described as perception management, in my opinion.

I also believe that mimicry and camouflage is a topic that is forever linked to positions of power and influence. 

So if you were a predator like a wolf, what better way to feast like a king than being a wolf in sheep's clothing?

If the possibility exist that Abrahamic religions (all 4), have been invented as a mixture of truths and lies in order to control its adherents to accept the status quo and never rise up against the controllers, I ask myself what are the results of each of the four from inception to present day?

Would it make sense to say it's mind control if we take an honest, hard look at the world?

How many 'truths' have stood the test of time and how much of it comes down to lip service? 

Has the message been subverted , for example gnosticism? 

If you hide the truth in a house of mirrors it becomes almost impossible to distinguish what the actual truth is and that is the best way to defend your racket from being exposed. 

It's a harsh look at things, but I trust my gut. Perhaps time changes my opinion on some things, as it had done so before in the past.
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(03-07-2025, 07:38 AM)19Bones79 Wrote: I understand your question in the context of the text being put forth for altruistic reasons.

I look at the deeds(results) more than the text itself even though the text is brutal at times, because since humanity first developed language and the written word I'm pretty convinced both were utilized to enforce a cohesive narrative which leads to cultural identity being formalized instead of being something fluid that develops organically overtime.

If language is accurately described as a labeler of personal perception, then a narrative can be described as perception management, in my opinion.

I also believe that mimicry and camouflage is a topic that is forever linked to positions of power and influence. 

So if you were a predator like a wolf, what better way to feast like a king than being a wolf in sheep's clothing?

If the possibility exist that Abrahamic religions (all 4), have been invented as a mixture of truths and lies in order to control its adherents to accept the status quo and never rise up against the controllers, I ask myself what are the results of each of the four from inception to present day?

Would it make sense to say it's mind control if we take an honest, hard look at the world?

How many 'truths' have stood the test of time and how much of it comes down to lip service? 

Has the message been subverted , for example gnosticism? 

If you hide the truth in a house of mirrors it becomes almost impossible to distinguish what the actual truth is and that is the best way to defend your racket from being exposed. 

It's a harsh look at things, but I trust my gut. Perhaps time changes my opinion on some things, as it had done so before in the past.

I agree that organized religion and their institutions have been and usually are used for malevolent purposes.

All of them.

Humans can't be trusted.

Beer
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(03-10-2025, 12:21 PM)MykeNukem Wrote: I agree that organized religion and their institutions have been and usually are used for malevolent purposes.

All of them.

Humans can't be trusted.

Beer

Yup, trust and humans are a tricky concept. 

Which makes achieving an accurate understanding of our reality even more challenging than it already is.

The concept of duality becomes fractal, a tree with many branches and choosing the correct path might come down to blind luck while stumbling in the dark. And if you're vocal about it, your opinion becomes a way point to those who know what's going on and where you're deluded and how close to the target you are. 

Usually I start by looking at symptoms and work my way back from there but the landscape is filled with mirages and smokescreens. 

I can absolutely understand why a lot of people would look at my ideas and think I'm nuts. 

I also know that there are too many instances of clues lying about the accepted narrative that anyone genuinely curious and appropriately capable simply has to come to the horrifying conclusion that perception management is the ultimate currency on this planet and always has been. 

The only way to effectively nullify a threat from the larger masses is to push a historical narrative that assists with collective amnesia.

If we don't know who we are and where we come from we are controlled whether we feel rebellious or not. 

Beer
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