What is the End Goal of Ai?

[19Bones79]

Globalism first cannot be permitted if this is to be successful, hence my notion of keeping something like my suggestion out of the government's hands. It can't become Big Brother because then it will just be another Patriot Act-esque government overreach.  My end-goal with my suggestion is an effort to actually reduce killing and violence by addressing things like mental health "before" an incident.  If the system becomes viewed as "Johnny Law" busting down your door down to "help" you then it will never work and isn't even worth further consideration.

Not arguing here, just clarifying my suggestion.

For sure. I'm just certain it will be designed to enable abuse by the elites. 

There are billions of beautiful people out there. 

None of them are in charge.

[Nugget]

I've been thinking about this OP off and on all day and something just occurred to me.  It's maybe a bit off-topic as it doesn't deal with the end goal of AI, but it does involve what I think might be a really good use for AI.

Why not use AI to do the following:

• Give a powerful AI instance the basics of the dark web, as well as giving it the browser tools to access the dark web.  Probably wouldn't take much to teach it how to find websites and do searches (because it already does that now on the regular Internet). 
  
• Then, feed the AI with all the data from all the known manifestos of these crazed mass killing events which are often precipitated by a long and dark history of rantings and postings in places like the dark web on subversive and socially destructive sites.  And instruct the AI instance to create algorithms to search for this kind of stuff.
  
• Then, have AI search out all the people who are making crazy and/or threatening rantings or manifestos and make their guardians aware of these activities and/or contact them directly and let them know they have been identified and offer to get them assistance (be it mental, medical or social counseling)
  

Now, at first glance, this may seem like an intrusive Big Brother thing, and it kind of is in a way, and I'm not suggesting these people be arrested or institutionalized (or anything like that), but just let their legal guardian(s) and/or themselves directly (in the absence of a guardian) know that assistance is available to them.  This would accomplish a couple potentially positive things.  One, it would let the individual know that others are aware of their activities (which common sense would dictate they should pretty much know anyway, but apparently many don't).  And two, might actually encourage some percentage to actually seek the help they need.

And just to be clear here, I'm talking about people who are making threatening rants or advocating violence against others. 

Background - We keep hearing about these mass killing events where, after the fact, this long trail of violent rantings clearly showed an unstable individual.  The recent Nashville school shooting incident as an example (two days ago I believe).  Same with the NYC insurance CEO killer, and many others.

This is just a rough though which requires refinement, but this might be an example of an 'end-goal' for AI which might actually result in some good.  I don't think putting the government in charge of something like this would be a good idea, but maybe there's a way to stand something like this up in the private sector.  Again, just a rough outline of an idea, so don't thump on me too hard, LOL!

Good idea?  Horrible (you're FIRED!) idea?  Thoughts?

First thing I tought of is forums like ATS where posters were blustering with bravado about civil war since the 2020 election; actually, before. Outdoing each other on their preparedness and drawing lines in the sand gave me quite a few chuckles.
I took it as blowing off steam by keyboard blowhard warriors. Forums are like a safe space for those who just want to look like the toughest guy in the room. If you have to brag about your capabilities, you ain't got squat. lol
One off THE biggest problems IMHO is the normalization of SSRI's. From Dr. Merchola's site (and there are plenty of others espousing the saame thing if you don't like him):
"SSRI antidepressants are among the most harmful medications on the market, impacting society due to their widespread (and frequently unjustifiable) use
Common side effects of SSRIs (and SNRIs) include sexual dysfunction (which is often permanent), emotional numbness, severe agitation, violent psychosis, cognitive decline, and birth defects
The most concerning SSRI side effect is their tendency to cause grisly suicides and homicidal violence which includes mass shootings
Psychiatry's denial of SSRI-related issues often leads to misinterpretation of side effects as signs of pre-existing mental illness, resulting in more medication and catastrophic consequences
SSRIs, like other stimulant drugs (e.g., cocaine), can create aggressive behaviors and are highly addictive so many SSRI enter severe withdrawals once they stop them. Unfortunately, few resources exist for patients struggling to quit SSRIs"

I don't think the side effects of 'better living through modern chemistry' are unknown, or accidental. Those at the top of the food chain know exactly what they're doing.
Just my 2 cents.

[Ksihkehe]

Understood.  I'm vaguely familiar with the dark web conceptually, but I've not actually been there.  But yes, I was thinking along the lines of letting AI have a crack at something like TOR and let it develop algorithms to do similar things.  I realize the dark web is not indexed the same way the regular Internet is, but there must be some way to search it, else no one would be able to find anything.  It can't all be word of mouth.  Some of it can, but not all.  And maybe it's like a combination of using the regular web and dark web together to gather and process information.

I guess another way of saying what I'm getting at here is, one of the real values I see (right now) with AI at its current level of maturity is in using AI to gather, crunch and distill massive quantities of data from the largest information repository on earth, the internet(s), and produce some useful / actionable output from that.

Everything you said in both posts is perfectly reasonable as far as how it can be applied, but the dark web portion just isn't practical or useful. The Internet of Things, surface web, and whatever existing capabilities they have on phone networks and VOIP, are all pretty significant amounts of information that could be and maybe already are fed into algorithms. There will be no shortage of data to analyze and they will probably always be limited in analysis by raw processing power.

An onion address on Tor is a now a base 32, 56 character string, typically with no relationship to anything involving the site itself. They called the sites hidden services for a reason. The vast majority of it is word of mouth, which includes links on the surface Internet or something like Telegram/IRC. There are many magnitudes more addresses available on TOR than there are stars in our galaxy, with less than probably 10k doing anything at any time.