Website Crossover Puzzle

[KKLoco]

Welp, it’s become clear that ATS has taken its bow down into the Atlantic. We are just waiting for the stern to lift into the air and her to split into two pieces….. then rapidly sink. 

DI, seems to have the ‘background’ and stamina to take over the reigns; as the moderation there is identical to ATS - with the exception of a few. 

Then, there is the new and upcoming MPP. Taking over the reigns of the ill-fated demise of the MP on ATS - via QUEEN DORKO. 

Within all these 3 moving parts…… there seems to be a sense of, let’s say ‘knowledge’, amongst of the few ‘in the know’. Additionally, a real sense of animosity between the three factions. 

I have my own knowledge, as I was one of the 10 formulated to buy ATS back in 2020. That clearly didn’t work out, as we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

So here’s the ‘chit chat’ theme for this discussion: What do you know: and how do you know it? ELABORATION is incredibly appreciated!

What’s the point of secrecy anymore?

[MykeNukem]

Welp, it’s become clear that ATS has taken its bow down into the Atlantic. We are just waiting for the stern to lift into the air and her to split into two pieces….. then rapidly sink. 

DI, seems to have the ‘background’ and stamina to take over the reigns; as the moderation there is identical to ATS - with the exception of a few. 

Then, there is the new and upcoming MPP. Taking over the reigns of the ill-fated demise of the MP on ATS - via QUEEN DORKO. 

Within all these 3 moving parts…… there seems to be a sense of, let’s say ‘knowledge’, amongst of the few ‘in the know’. Additionally, a real sense of animosity between the three factions. 

I have my own knowledge, as I was one of the 10 formulated to buy ATS back in 2020. That clearly didn’t work out, as we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

So here’s the ‘chit chat’ theme for this discussion: What do you know: and how do you know it? ELABORATION is incredibly appreciated!

What’s the point of secrecy anymore?

Here's the story in a nutshell.

Because of ATS' demise and with no sign of an owner I registered the domain denyignorance.com as a safeguard for the community, in case ATS went down.

TSK came along and was working on a forum, so I offered to donate the DI domain to him. He accepted and all was well until recently.

Neither website nor their staff had any interest in politics and stated as much on both sites, so I figured I'd create a 'politics only' website, no harm no foul I thought.

Well, I was told in no uncertain terms that I wasn't aloud to speak of my website on ATS which isn't surprising.

Then, TSK (owner of DI) reached out to me to offer to create a 'politics' section on DI that would be completely separate, so the staff wouldn't have to deal with it (like I said, they have no interest in politics). He told me to hang tight for a few days, this was Sept 26th, and I've been waiting ever since.

So, fast forward to today and I go to login DI and notice my credentials were removed and my VIP status was taken.

No one said a word to me beforehand.

I'm not going to cause drama, I've told them all I have to say, basically, GFYS.

Anyone has any questions go ahead and ask, I'm not running this site behind a curtain, this site will be it's members.

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ETA: TSK hacked ATS, this is a pic of a profile someone sent me, it was being edited in front of their eyes but it was changed before it was posted:
   

I was also sent this pic of him being logged in at the time (he's never on there):
   

Now he's posted on DI that he all of the sudden remembers that he knows who the hacker is and he's known all along, lmao, after I just got done accusing him. Sounds legit ..

Anyway, don't want drama and you won't hear anything more about this BS from me. Just thought everyone should know.

I'm movin along ..

[Ksihkehe]

There aren't many of us still kicking around that made it through that whole gauntlet of the buyout offer. Of those remaining by the end, most have disappeared.

I don't really have any animosity toward any specific parties. Even those that have dicked me around.

After logging out of my mod account due to the abandonment of the site, I had decided I was done with any sort of participation on forums once ATS died. I was not terribly interested in circular arguments about politics with delusional people. In that respect I understand why DI and/or the mods don't want to moderate politics. It's sort of crazy that grown adults are such rejects they need constant close supervision over words on a screen. Reeee- misinformation... I'm sorry everyone is too dumb to think for themselves on team censorship, but if you are aren't smart enough to think for yourselves you sure as hell aren't smart enough to think for me.

That said, it really irritated me that there seemed to be a closed vote on how "the community" moved on with this new site where politics was forbidden/discouraged. Let's not beat around the bush either... whatever the DNC and globalists decide has to be changed becomes political. The topics forbidden were going to end up being things that went against the DNC/globalist narratives and that is already starting to take shape. It's a losing battle to simply stop discussing things that cause underhanded forum tactics from activist clowns and people that are so insecure they need everything they consume to confirm their beliefs.

UAPs, ancient history, climate, public health, have all become political. It's pushed from on high, parroted by people that think reading Wikipedia makes them scientifically literate, and when the rubber meets the road you get banned from everywhere for showing how utterly retarded some of of these takes are.

So, I suggested that Myke politely and respectfully request permission to at least put MPP in his signature.

The decision to not allow this while DI continues to enjoy not only signature links, but wink and nudge promotion, irritated me.

So, here I am.

I don't know what secret information there really is to know.

The site was shit. Darko fixed some stuff, but not much. It's not really hard for me to believe that somebody with only a passing interest in the topics covered on ATS wouldn't really give a shit about the community dynamics or even the survival of the community. The owner obviously considered it mostly a loss during the purchase, as we knew it would be when looking into buying. Easy come, easy go. Allegedly they had throwaway money, so it's not hard to imagine. People have million dollar homes that they never visit. Quite a life, I guess.

I think it was a huge mistake for the admin of DI to make their presence so forcefully known on ATS. I think it was a mistake to post about private discussions that were between them and others associated with ATS. I think it was a mistake to just transplant the mod team to a politics free clone of ATS, concurrently with ATS running. Some of the comments about contacting people connected -on a site that they're actively trying to hijack traffic from- were not very diplomatic. They were able to drag the ATS owners and people associated through the mud, but posting a link to MPP is a T&C violation, lol.

It's kinda bonkers, really. Forests seem to have become invisible behind all the trees.

I have no idea who that admin is and I haven't spoken to anybody that was actually on ATS when they were. Some of them have been around a while. I have no real information about who they are or where they came from in this whole ordeal. I don't really care if they knew Springer, or Bill, or whoever, two decades ago. Bill barely communicated with us during the buyout when we were planning to be giving him many wampum, so his passing knowledge of this other admin doesn't really mean anything to me. He's been around, so maybe he said far more than I'm aware of. I don't know that he even acknowledged knowing him, but it's been heavily insinuated that TSK has had conversations with everyone from Darko, to Bill, to Simon, to the ATS owner. I haven't kept track, but seemingly everywhere was inside information being shared.

I don't know, because there's been very little straight shooting going back a couple years now. Kinda a theme with ATS related stuff. It doesn't really matter as I'm not entitled to any special information. I just can only make decisions based on what I do know. I know I feel real sketched out when people publicly share direct information from personal conversations they've had. Naming names, telling details..  just isn't good form.

My personal policy is that the first time my private conversation gets attributed to me publicly, is the last time it happens with whoever shared it. I don't really make a lot of private statements that I'm not prepared to vigorously defend publicly, but that's not the point. I don't even care if my ideas are relayed... just don't attach my name to things that I'm not around to defend. A lot of the time the things shared are mostly drama rather than of any real merit anyway, but it shouldn't matter. It's just never works out quite the way intended.

Long-winded explanations aside, it was a lose-lose for TSK to be involved beyond setting up the refuge. It sold itself because it was the only option, but it started to appear that was creeping further and further into a defacto coup of ATS. Granted, you can't really coup an empty throne, but you can choose not to take a dump in the throne room afterward.

To reiterate, I have no real animosity toward anyone. I hope everyone finds a place where they can discuss the things they want. There seems to be animosity between the admin of DI and the ATS management, but I don't think ATS management cares enough to have an opinion. Myke, as is tradition, has made his position fairly clear without any ambiguity. I don't care much about the individual feelings between the parties. People get themselves feeling all sorts of ways and in five years most of it won't matter.

I'm just slightly irritated. The little muppet on TV says it's dangerous to ask why FEMA has spent large amounts of money on an immigration crisis they allow to continue year after year. They're paying hundreds of millions of dollars to their friends at NGOs handling refugees, it's got to be in the billions now after all these years, and there's no money left to pay their corporate disaster vendors to do more "charity". It seems like a really really bad time to NOT discuss politics. I think maybe everybody has to, before they're not allowed to anymore.

What things are you thinking people have information on? So much has happened I may be forgetting things. I've seen so much outlandish nonsense that I think it's far less exciting than what most people think. Most everything can be easily explained if you remember we're all just hairless primates in various stages of psychosis. There are many more detailed reasons, but they're all derivative of that one.

The reality is, unless things change significantly, MPP will be gone along with DI. The format is dying and those that survive are heavily moderated by people with questionable motives.

[KKLoco]

Welp, it’s become clear that ATS has taken its bow down into the Atlantic. We are just waiting for the stern to lift into the air and her to split into two pieces….. then rapidly sink. 

DI, seems to have the ‘background’ and stamina to take over the reigns; as the moderation there is identical to ATS - with the exception of a few. 

Then, there is the new and upcoming MPP. Taking over the reigns of the ill-fated demise of the MP on ATS - via QUEEN DORKO. 

Within all these 3 moving parts…… there seems to be a sense of, let’s say ‘knowledge’, amongst of the few ‘in the know’. Additionally, a real sense of animosity between the three factions. 

I have my own knowledge, as I was one of the 10 formulated to buy ATS back in 2020. That clearly didn’t work out, as we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

So here’s the ‘chit chat’ theme for this discussion: What do you know: and how do you know it? ELABORATION is incredibly appreciated!

What’s the point of secrecy anymore?

Here's the story in a nutshell.

Because of ATS' demise and with no sign of an owner I registered the domain denyignorance.com as a safeguard for the community, in case ATS went down.

TSK came along and was working on a forum, so I offered to donate the DI domain to him. He accepted and all was well until recently.

Neither website nor their staff had any interest in politics and stated as much on both sites, so I figured I'd create a 'politics only' website, no harm no foul I thought.

Well, I was told in no uncertain terms that I wasn't aloud to speak of my website on ATS which isn't surprising.

Then, TSK (owner of DI) reached out to me to offer to create a 'politics' section on DI that would be completely separate, so the staff wouldn't have to deal with it (like I said, they have no interest in politics). He told me to hang tight for a few days, this was Sept 26th, and I've been waiting ever since.

So, fast forward to today and I go to login DI and notice my credentials were removed and my VIP status was taken.

No one said a word to me beforehand.

I'm not going to cause drama, I've told them all I have to say, basically, GFYS.

Anyone has any questions go ahead and ask, I'm not running this site behind a curtain, this site will be it's members.

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ETA: TSK hacked ATS, this is a pic of a profile someone sent me, it was being edited in front of their eyes but it was changed before it was posted:


I was also sent this pic of him being logged in at the time (he's never on there):


Now he's posted on DI that he all of the sudden remembers that he knows who the hacker is and he's known all along, lmao, after I just got done accusing him. Sounds legit ..

Anyway, don't want drama and you won't hear anything more about this BS from me. Just thought everyone should know.

I'm movin along ..

WOW! I watched your post in real-time on DI last night. It took about 30 minutes before they pulled it. I did get screen shots before that, though.  :sexualdoggy: 

I was wondering who Mr. MUD was. Thank you for the clarification.

So this is why I asked the question here last week. Why allow DI to advertise on ATS, but not MPP. Short answer: Myke isn’t in the good ole boys club — even though he donated the goddamn domain name…. That club is impenetrable. Not that we’d want to penetrate it anyways. Lol

I had a feeling it was someone on the inside  doing the hack. It just seemed so harmless. Unless, you’re someone with a vested interest. An interest in getting people to lose faith in ATS, to regain it in DI.

Thanks for the clarification, Myke. I will say that going back to 2020 when we tried to buy it, there just seemed like so many layers, and so many players involved in those layers. It’s crazy, I just think of ATS as a website. But others view it as soooooo much more….

ETA just now: so TSK came in and responded to JinMi’s comment this morning. Bashed you then canned the thread. 

How do I add a pic of a screenshot here?

[FCD]

As I have repeatedly stated elsewhere, the notion that politics is not a relevant discussion topic in today's environment is tantamount to sticking one's fingers in their ears and yelling..."I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"...over and over again. It is divorcing one's self from reality.

There's a lot of bad shit going on in the World right now; some of it serious enough to affect our futures in some very serious and negative ways. Failure to recognize and discuss these topics to both dispel misinformation as well as to gain better and more uniform understanding among the masses is critically important today.

[KKLoco]

BTW, they made a song about you Myke. Gonna have to reply to Ksihkehe when I get home from work.

[M.U.D.]

ETA just now: so TSK came in and responded to JinMi’s comment this morning. Bashed you then canned the thread. 

How do I add a pic of a screenshot here?

When you post just go to the bottom of the post and 'add attachment', once it uploads, make sure your cursor is where you want the image to be and click 'insert into post'

   
   

[Nugget]

Learning has always been a high priority in my life; if I'm not learning something new each day I feel like I've lost an important opportunity. That's why I've been on ATS since before it was the forum it is now; bck in the day when I would get an email informing me there was a new post. lol I think it was 1997....

Anyway, back on topic (so I don't lose points or get post banned..LMAO) politics is the one subject I've never been able to grasp. The Mud Pit arguments finally got things to start making since....only took about 5 years. I've come a long way, but still want/need to learn so much more.
I'm glad there is a place left to discuss such things, no matter how short lived TPTB mke it.

Nearly all the people I enjoyed learning from on ATS have quit posting and I find myself relly missing them. Today's big post was how low-life Trump is outsourcing Trump Bibles to China for production. I think it's up to 3 pages of back-and-forth that taught me nothing new. ...just more proof it's definitely the end of an era.

I see a lot of faces here that I've enjoyed intercting with in recent years and -most importantly threads I can LEARN from!

I felt pretty honored to receive a personal invite to MPP, so thank you Myke! I don't always sign in, but I've been lurking. lol

P.S. Am I correct in assuming 'M.U.D' and 'Myke' are one and the same?

P.P.S. 'day's gonna come' is one awesome thread! Kudos, Bones!

[MykeNukem]

Learning has always been a high priority in my life; if I'm not learning something new each day I feel like I've lost an important opportunity. That's why I've been on ATS since before it was the forum it is now; bck in the day when I would get an email informing me there was a new post. lol I think it was 1997....

Anyway, back on topic (so I don't lose points or get post banned..LMAO)  politics is the one subject I've never been able to grasp. The Mud Pit arguments finally got things to start making since....only took about 5 years. I've come a long way, but still want/need to learn so much more.
I'm glad there is a place left to discuss such things, no matter how short lived TPTB mke it.

Nearly all the people I enjoyed learning from on ATS have quit posting and I find myself relly missing them. Today's big post was how low-life Trump is outsourcing Trump Bibles to China for production. I think it's up to 3 pages of  back-and-forth that taught me nothing new. ...just more proof it's definitely the end of an era.

I see a lot of faces here that I've enjoyed intercting with in recent years and -most importantly threads I can LEARN from!

I felt pretty honored to receive a personal invite to MPP, so thank you Myke!  I don't always sign in, but I've been lurking. lol

P.S. Am I correct in assuming  'M.U.D' and  'Myke' are one and the same?

P.P.S. 'day's gonna come' is one awesome thread! Kudos, Bones!

Heya Nug, 

Yes, my name is MUD, lol.

I keep the Admin separate, because when I'm on the forum talkin and posting with ya's, I ain't no admin, just a member.

Very happy to see you approve of what I'm trying to do! Means a lot to me, there's a reason I invited ya.

Looking forward to your participation here!

You have any questions or whatever you feel free to ask ..

:drinkingcheers:

[19Bones79]

Welp, it’s become clear that ATS has taken its bow down into the Atlantic. We are just waiting for the stern to lift into the air and her to split into two pieces….. then rapidly sink. 

DI, seems to have the ‘background’ and stamina to take over the reigns; as the moderation there is identical to ATS - with the exception of a few. 

Then, there is the new and upcoming MPP. Taking over the reigns of the ill-fated demise of the MP on ATS - via QUEEN DORKO. 

Within all these 3 moving parts…… there seems to be a sense of, let’s say ‘knowledge’, amongst of the few ‘in the know’. Additionally, a real sense of animosity between the three factions. 

I have my own knowledge, as I was one of the 10 formulated to buy ATS back in 2020. That clearly didn’t work out, as we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

So here’s the ‘chit chat’ theme for this discussion: What do you know: and how do you know it? ELABORATION is incredibly appreciated!

What’s the point of secrecy anymore?

Here's the story in a nutshell.

Because of ATS' demise and with no sign of an owner I registered the domain denyignorance.com as a safeguard for the community, in case ATS went down.

TSK came along and was working on a forum, so I offered to donate the DI domain to him. He accepted and all was well until recently.

Neither website nor their staff had any interest in politics and stated as much on both sites, so I figured I'd create a 'politics only' website, no harm no foul I thought.

Well, I was told in no uncertain terms that I wasn't aloud to speak of my website on ATS which isn't surprising.

Then, TSK (owner of DI) reached out to me to offer to create a 'politics' section on DI that would be completely separate, so the staff wouldn't have to deal with it (like I said, they have no interest in politics). He told me to hang tight for a few days, this was Sept 26th, and I've been waiting ever since.

So, fast forward to today and I go to login DI and notice my credentials were removed and my VIP status was taken.

No one said a word to me beforehand.

I'm not going to cause drama, I've told them all I have to say, basically, GFYS.

Anyone has any questions go ahead and ask, I'm not running this site behind a curtain, this site will be it's members.

-------

ETA: TSK hacked ATS, this is a pic of a profile someone sent me, it was being edited in front of their eyes but it was changed before it was posted:


I was also sent this pic of him being logged in at the time (he's never on there):


Now he's posted on DI that he all of the sudden remembers that he knows who the hacker is and he's known all along, lmao, after I just got done accusing him. Sounds legit ..

Anyway, don't want drama and you won't hear anything more about this BS from me. Just thought everyone should know.

I'm movin along ..

So!

It was you. 

Thanks for this.